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	<title>Comments on: Going Downhill &#8211; A Bit Faster</title>
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		<title>By: Kate Mathews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Mathews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kim!  Hi Scott!  

Kim, on Sunday, I was visiting friends I hadn&#039;t seen in a while, talking about what I do, and one of them said that he&#039;d stopped giving through United Way because of the William Aramony scandal.  To me that is ages ago, and affects United Way, not individual charities.  But I realized (1) of course it affects individual charities who depend on United Way; and (2) our donor market expects higher ethics of non-profits and has a very long memory.   Your point is well taken.

Scott, thanks for the tip on the artcile -- I have to go find it!  Kate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kim!  Hi Scott!  </p>
<p>Kim, on Sunday, I was visiting friends I hadn&#8217;t seen in a while, talking about what I do, and one of them said that he&#8217;d stopped giving through United Way because of the William Aramony scandal.  To me that is ages ago, and affects United Way, not individual charities.  But I realized (1) of course it affects individual charities who depend on United Way; and (2) our donor market expects higher ethics of non-profits and has a very long memory.   Your point is well taken.</p>
<p>Scott, thanks for the tip on the artcile &#8212; I have to go find it!  Kate</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Swedenburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Swedenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the number of new donors is down for many organizations, we have only seen a small drop if any for the regional/medium-size nonprofits we serve.  This may be related to new donors gravitating toward more local organizations where they feel their dollars will have the greatest impact.

Obviously a new donor acquisition approach is needed for many organizations, but I would hate to see this news cause some nonprofits stop their direct mail fundraising efforts. The article today in the Wall Street Journal &quot;Firms Hold Fast to Snail Mail Marketing&quot; is a lesson for all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the number of new donors is down for many organizations, we have only seen a small drop if any for the regional/medium-size nonprofits we serve.  This may be related to new donors gravitating toward more local organizations where they feel their dollars will have the greatest impact.</p>
<p>Obviously a new donor acquisition approach is needed for many organizations, but I would hate to see this news cause some nonprofits stop their direct mail fundraising efforts. The article today in the Wall Street Journal &#8220;Firms Hold Fast to Snail Mail Marketing&#8221; is a lesson for all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Silva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Silva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think that possibly the difficulties that some well-known nonprofits have had that are being exploited by the media could have something to do with this?  There are many, many, many of us doing great work, but the media only talks about those who are in trouble.  I would guess that probably doesn&#039;t help in our ability to engage new donors.  Anxious to hear all the other ideas and comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think that possibly the difficulties that some well-known nonprofits have had that are being exploited by the media could have something to do with this?  There are many, many, many of us doing great work, but the media only talks about those who are in trouble.  I would guess that probably doesn&#8217;t help in our ability to engage new donors.  Anxious to hear all the other ideas and comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Mathews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Mathews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger, I can&#039;t wait for your post tomorrow.  In two words:  risk aversion.  We fundraisers keep doing what we&#039;ve done before because the infrastructure for mail is more developed than the infrastructure for other channels; because analysis shows that nets for mail at many organizations continue to be significantly higher than nets for other channels; and because most organizations are not willing to take a long view and invest in developing unproven technologies or audiences.  (How many organizations for example, are looking to make their fund-raising relevant to Hispanic or Asian donors?)  What we &quot;know&quot; dictates what we &quot;do&quot;.   So, even when we do experiment with new media (DRTV, mobile phones, social media, email), we tend to use the old advertising, sales &quot;formulas.&quot;  At least, this is what we have been saying to ourselves and nonprofit leaders, in my experience.  And now, as we watch our returns decline, we are preparing ourselves for limited success or outright failure, compared to the 80s and 90s because there are no easy answers.  So what if ...
having trained our donor bases, we actually asked them how often they want to hear from us -- and honored their requests?  What if ... we told them stories of success ...  what if every non-profit leader asked every small donor to an interactive web party ... what if we asked donors to prepare the causes they support for success .... Well, I&#039;ll stop now because I&#039;ve begun to ramble.  Thank you for these posts.  I hope that many more Agitators who read The Agitator will participate in this particular on-line dialogue.  Best regards,  Kate Mathews</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger, I can&#8217;t wait for your post tomorrow.  In two words:  risk aversion.  We fundraisers keep doing what we&#8217;ve done before because the infrastructure for mail is more developed than the infrastructure for other channels; because analysis shows that nets for mail at many organizations continue to be significantly higher than nets for other channels; and because most organizations are not willing to take a long view and invest in developing unproven technologies or audiences.  (How many organizations for example, are looking to make their fund-raising relevant to Hispanic or Asian donors?)  What we &#8220;know&#8221; dictates what we &#8220;do&#8221;.   So, even when we do experiment with new media (DRTV, mobile phones, social media, email), we tend to use the old advertising, sales &#8220;formulas.&#8221;  At least, this is what we have been saying to ourselves and nonprofit leaders, in my experience.  And now, as we watch our returns decline, we are preparing ourselves for limited success or outright failure, compared to the 80s and 90s because there are no easy answers.  So what if &#8230;<br />
having trained our donor bases, we actually asked them how often they want to hear from us &#8212; and honored their requests?  What if &#8230; we told them stories of success &#8230;  what if every non-profit leader asked every small donor to an interactive web party &#8230; what if we asked donors to prepare the causes they support for success &#8230;. Well, I&#8217;ll stop now because I&#8217;ve begun to ramble.  Thank you for these posts.  I hope that many more Agitators who read The Agitator will participate in this particular on-line dialogue.  Best regards,  Kate Mathews</p>
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