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	<title>Comments on: Flat Earth Fundraising: Moneyball</title>
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		<title>By: Mazarine Treyz</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.net/dont-miss-these-posts/flat-earth-fundraising-moneyball/comment-page-1/#comment-151060</link>
		<dc:creator>Mazarine Treyz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 21:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came here from Pamela Grow&#039;s enewsletter. And I&#039;m so happy that I did! It&#039;s amazing what you don&#039;t know about a game that you&#039;ve been playing all your life, reminds me of a Taoist principle, We build our lives around what we know, but our lives are supported by how much we don&#039;t know. 

Peace,

Mazarine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came here from Pamela Grow&#8217;s enewsletter. And I&#8217;m so happy that I did! It&#8217;s amazing what you don&#8217;t know about a game that you&#8217;ve been playing all your life, reminds me of a Taoist principle, We build our lives around what we know, but our lives are supported by how much we don&#8217;t know. </p>
<p>Peace,</p>
<p>Mazarine</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Mathews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Mathews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like fundraisers to challenge the notion that donors don&#039;t remember  how many times they&#039;ve donated, how much they&#039;ve donated, what they&#039;ve donated to support, as well as the notion that donors don&#039;t want to hear, or are incapable of understanding the difference between a 501-c-3 or 501-c-4 etc.  Folks, we&#039;ve been educating donors about tactics, strategy, and the distinctions between prospecting, renewals, and appeals for as long as the oldest person employed in the industry has been working.  

Our donor&#039;s aren&#039;t stupid.  They live in a marketing world.  So market to them and serve them.  

It&#039;s a form of disrespect and disregard for donors who email or call with issues they&#039;re having NOT to explain what is happening.  And to thank them for the opportunity to make things better. Sure, some won&#039;t want to listen.  But a lot will thank you for your extra time.  I propose that the bigger your organization is, the more you should be thinking every bit about the back-end as the front end.  And that is where breaking down silos is very important (to relate this to earlier comments.)

And once your organization is actually listening to what your donors are saying to you, put in place the technical features that will allow you to fix the problem the donor is talking about.  Once you&#039;ve gotten a live person talking to a donor, its even more disrepectful not to spend some time addressing or fixing the problem the donor called about.  Or &quot;controlling the conversation.&quot;  Instead of &quot;controlling&quot; think of &quot;positively closing.&quot;  If you want to differentiate yourself from the other nonprofit organizations your donors contribute to,, take a look at your back-end processes.  Spend some money fixing them. Yes, it&#039;s infrastructure.  No, it&#039;s not as exciting as thinking about your next creative project or what the numbers are telling you about the latest market trend.  It&#039;s not even about Personalization -- if I get one more email where my first name is in all caps all through the email ..... -- you get the picture.  It&#039;s about service and being willing to figure out what that means and invest in it.
And by the way, if you have a GREAT member services person who is acting as your secretary or receptionist or whatever AND doing database maintenance and answering member questions civilly and politely and has been doing that year in and year out -- RECOGNIZE THAT PERSON every bit as much as you would recognize the person who just discovered the break-through technique or package that is lifting response.  If we&#039;re serious about retention, think about what you are doing for member services and the peopel who do that thankless job day in and day out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like fundraisers to challenge the notion that donors don&#8217;t remember  how many times they&#8217;ve donated, how much they&#8217;ve donated, what they&#8217;ve donated to support, as well as the notion that donors don&#8217;t want to hear, or are incapable of understanding the difference between a 501-c-3 or 501-c-4 etc.  Folks, we&#8217;ve been educating donors about tactics, strategy, and the distinctions between prospecting, renewals, and appeals for as long as the oldest person employed in the industry has been working.  </p>
<p>Our donor&#8217;s aren&#8217;t stupid.  They live in a marketing world.  So market to them and serve them.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a form of disrespect and disregard for donors who email or call with issues they&#8217;re having NOT to explain what is happening.  And to thank them for the opportunity to make things better. Sure, some won&#8217;t want to listen.  But a lot will thank you for your extra time.  I propose that the bigger your organization is, the more you should be thinking every bit about the back-end as the front end.  And that is where breaking down silos is very important (to relate this to earlier comments.)</p>
<p>And once your organization is actually listening to what your donors are saying to you, put in place the technical features that will allow you to fix the problem the donor is talking about.  Once you&#8217;ve gotten a live person talking to a donor, its even more disrepectful not to spend some time addressing or fixing the problem the donor called about.  Or &#8220;controlling the conversation.&#8221;  Instead of &#8220;controlling&#8221; think of &#8220;positively closing.&#8221;  If you want to differentiate yourself from the other nonprofit organizations your donors contribute to,, take a look at your back-end processes.  Spend some money fixing them. Yes, it&#8217;s infrastructure.  No, it&#8217;s not as exciting as thinking about your next creative project or what the numbers are telling you about the latest market trend.  It&#8217;s not even about Personalization &#8212; if I get one more email where my first name is in all caps all through the email &#8230;.. &#8212; you get the picture.  It&#8217;s about service and being willing to figure out what that means and invest in it.<br />
And by the way, if you have a GREAT member services person who is acting as your secretary or receptionist or whatever AND doing database maintenance and answering member questions civilly and politely and has been doing that year in and year out &#8212; RECOGNIZE THAT PERSON every bit as much as you would recognize the person who just discovered the break-through technique or package that is lifting response.  If we&#8217;re serious about retention, think about what you are doing for member services and the peopel who do that thankless job day in and day out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.net/dont-miss-these-posts/flat-earth-fundraising-moneyball/comment-page-1/#comment-149093</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would challenge the long-held argument for &quot;unrestricted annual operating dollars,&quot; particularly when it comes to community-based nonprofits. If I had a dollar for every time I have heard &quot;I only give to program, not to salaries (or operating),&quot; I could easily be somewhere in the Bahamas on my yacht right now.

It&#039;s not a donor issue, it&#039;s an organization issue - with reference to the comment about silos, a silo&#039;ing of the messages we send (or don&#039;t send) to our supporters about what is important. I would like to see nonprofits everywhere &quot;adjust the conversation&quot; with donors, board members, staff, even consultants, and work on the idea that without a strong organization, there is no mission or vision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would challenge the long-held argument for &#8220;unrestricted annual operating dollars,&#8221; particularly when it comes to community-based nonprofits. If I had a dollar for every time I have heard &#8220;I only give to program, not to salaries (or operating),&#8221; I could easily be somewhere in the Bahamas on my yacht right now.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a donor issue, it&#8217;s an organization issue &#8211; with reference to the comment about silos, a silo&#8217;ing of the messages we send (or don&#8217;t send) to our supporters about what is important. I would like to see nonprofits everywhere &#8220;adjust the conversation&#8221; with donors, board members, staff, even consultants, and work on the idea that without a strong organization, there is no mission or vision.</p>
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		<title>By: Chip Grizzard</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.net/dont-miss-these-posts/flat-earth-fundraising-moneyball/comment-page-1/#comment-149044</link>
		<dc:creator>Chip Grizzard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Organizations (charities and agencies) need to kill the sacred cow called silos.  That worked fine in the 80&#039;s and 90&#039;s when everything was about mail.  Channels today are not linear yet that&#039;s how so many plan, execute and analyze.

 Everyone is talking about it, yet few seem to be addressing it.  It is the best way to optimize spending and maximize ROI.  And, it is only going to grow in importance as technology leads to more market fragmentation.  

Yes, it&#039;s painful to change people, goals, budgets and technology, but there is a simple process that gains buy-in, improves collaboration and reorganizes around the donor.

Chip Grizzard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Organizations (charities and agencies) need to kill the sacred cow called silos.  That worked fine in the 80&#8242;s and 90&#8242;s when everything was about mail.  Channels today are not linear yet that&#8217;s how so many plan, execute and analyze.</p>
<p> Everyone is talking about it, yet few seem to be addressing it.  It is the best way to optimize spending and maximize ROI.  And, it is only going to grow in importance as technology leads to more market fragmentation.  </p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s painful to change people, goals, budgets and technology, but there is a simple process that gains buy-in, improves collaboration and reorganizes around the donor.</p>
<p>Chip Grizzard.</p>
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